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Many beautiful girls, merrily, with pleasure!

EDIT! Inclub has bit the bullet too, haha I suppose it was un-avoidable.. but hell they had a good run.. Main staff have already moved to other venues and "the gossip" is those without replacement work are planned to move to "a" new club.

What with you happens in BABYFACE?
hu ar u? :) BABYFACE This good place, there many beautiful girls, and is very cheerful.

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Many beautiful girls, merrily, with pleasure!

Hi David?
you into DnB? never seen u at n e nights or heard of a single night of it being featured in the old club....? anyways, Since you say I should get facts straight hehe, all the people that took care of me or my guests over the past few years personally at a great level of quality have in fact begun work already at other clubs.. maybe they are not concidered the main staff to you or the mangement.. but to me and apparantly any club they choose to work at.. they are and working there within almost an instance... As you revealed to me some info, I would not like to spoil your surprise, want to give us the spin on or a sneak peak in terms of a simple description or some of the unique features of the new club in planning?  -All the Best~!

Luke

get your facts striagt before you pass a comment

I must ask the same..who are u? and of course Babyface is one of the worst places to go in sz...ask some others if you need to know more about this place...Im not the only one that know this situation,but you are free to go there..if something happen with you after..will be your fault..I only let people know something I hear...

mm...Im really interesting in your opinion...yeah...

Music did not please me on the last two evening-parties on Friday: only at 4 o'clock began to play house, and to it terrible mixture. :)

In the last weeks, 5 of my friends got their phones stolen in Babyface. We told the management that there is a group of thieves, but it still happens. It is very easy for the robbers, as there is an unsecured open door at the second floor where the people can escape with the phones right after they steal it on the dancefloor.
Means to me either:- Babyface management including Tira Lee doesn't give a shit about their customers or- Babyface management is part of this dirty scam, probably because drug business doesn't make enough profit these days.

Im maybe in late to answer you , but really you bring me the reason directly....I only think that you are wrong with development countries..do you think that only because some foreigner can't speak chinese need be fight or have problems???Really I dont understand your reasons...this is China...what do you mean? of course we know is China, but I hope not aaaall the people need be in the hospital when go out...like you....Of course this local not is the only one with problems..but who is the guilty?I think the management people need be responsable about the locals...what do you think?because, I usually go to Hk for example..you know, CHINA too, and when in the club someone fight...directly is going out with the security...............

I must ask the same..who are u? and of course Babyface is one of the worst places to go in sz...ask some others if you need to know more about this place...Im not the only one that know this situation,but you are free to go there..if something happen with you after..will be your fault..I only let people know something I hear...

mm...Im really interesting in your opinion...yeah...

Music did not please me on the last two evening-parties on Friday: only at 4 o'clock began to play house, and to it terrible mixture. :)

No offense to ya Tokatak, but there is lines within lines in the prior post.. I have seen things here you would not believe if you are surprised by a few street deaths from kitchen cleavers and machetes then I would never wish to explain further as to not fall on deaf ears as they say.  I wonder how you would react to the notion of services providing cannibalism at a hefty price?? twins and pretty girls are the most expensive dishes... YUM@ 
I do understand chinese and I am an artist as well and to be honest I can not say they are more creative or peaceful  than any other race or nation at all. That is in fact a massive over generalization as far as I am concerned and am often dismayed at the general public's Lack of creativity or desire to go outside the proverbial box if they can understand the notion set in fact. But I or you should not blame them for this is their way of life given to them such as it is our burden to get visa renewals lol.!!! k that is a very poor comparison but hell borders are there and we generally have a much bigger playground to learn in and bring to the table so to speak..

sorry for late reply been busy and didn't check into chat topics,
but for your records, I am me.. thats who, aka dusktodawn, msn kain_draicore.

I don't understand all of your quote to be honest:
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 "Im maybe in late to answer you , but really you bring me the reason
directly....I only think that you are wrong with development
countries..
[do you think that only because some foreigner can't speak
chinese need be fight or have problems???]
Really I dont understand your
reasons...this is China...what do you mean? of course we know is China,
but I hope not aaaall the people need be in the hospital when go
out...like you....Of course this local not is the only one with
problems..but who is the guilty?I think the management people need be
responsable about the locals...what do you think?because, I usually go
to Hk for example..you know, CHINA too, and when in the club someone
fight...directly is going out with the security..............."
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K firstly, yes you should stick to HK if you require the security. When I say this is China.. it means it is Not HK, thus should not be compared and also why there is a big fn border still to control what might be passed vice-versa otherwise.

I don't mean because some foreigners  can not speak chinese all others that do not speak too will have problems. I just remind you that if you could understand what the problem was that you were confronted with that you could better avoid a conflict. Often the misunderstanding can lead to further hostilities or un-necessary violence.

Chances are you have not walked the streets here say 4-6am in the 80% of city you never see from a car.. where yes such things as machetee fights are quite common in public view for example. I spent every single day for months and months of years working these clubs you talk so informatively about and yes although i am a foreigner such as Hk and any other asian nations visiting china i am the only one (non chinese) that has worked for Soho china and seen how true "chinese operations" work.
 I can tell you that I have only been sent to hospital one time
with Lethal life threatening injuries  in the countless times i have had to deal with hostile and drunk chinese (and foreigners for that matter) in my life here.(4 stab wounds and gashes held together by my hands so my intestines
didnt spill out as i forced a police van to drive me to the hospital
bleeding all over the van)
That being said I wonder how your figures would compare if you were a male foreigner in the same position.. It is not easy or as difficult as some jobs for sure but don't scoff at it and imply that I go to hospital whenever i go out where it seems you are in fact more likely to find yourself suiting if you had spent as many days/months on end basically living in clubs here working.
As for security.. as far as they see it and it is seen in other places of the world too. if you are a valuable client, they will protect you of course.. if you complain and cause trouble after paying for one bottle with no reservation and are not known locally, why should they risk getting further problems from locals that could truly affect their business in ways you can not even imply????

 think behind the facade of client side and customer service generalizations from the west..  I do not wish to undermine your statements but you should not do so to others like me for example who only tell you from personal long term experience as a warning and confirmation of your beliefs that it is not candy land or care bare safety time here.. take care! and yes.. I do think you should learn some Chinese at least if you wish to go out without Chinese local accompaniment!

Difference for what and who, are you American? How strongly are you drunk?
How do you behave? If you consider the Chinese such, then not surprised if they answer you accordingly.
I like the Chinese, they are more creative peaceful
than Americans and Europeans.Killed Foreigners?
From where for you information and as far as is it reliable?

No offense to ya Tokatak, but there is lines within lines in the prior post.. I have seen things here you would not believe if you are surprised by a few street deaths from kitchen cleavers and machetes then I would never wish to explain further as to not fall on deaf ears as they say.  I wonder how you would react to the notion of services providing cannibalism at a hefty price?? twins and pretty girls are the most expensive dishes... YUM@ 
I do understand chinese and I am an artist as well and to be honest I can not say they are more creative or peaceful  than any other race or nation at all. That is in fact a massive over generalization as far as I am concerned and am often dismayed at the general public's Lack of creativity or desire to go outside the proverbial box if they can understand the notion set in fact. But I or you should not blame them for this is their way of life given to them such as it is our burden to get visa renewals lol.!!! k that is a very poor comparison but hell borders are there and we generally have a much bigger playground to learn in and bring to the table so to speak..

Perhaps you are right in that I have a hard time respecting Anybody as I spend more time dealing with trickery and bribery, corruption and dishonesty. Not just Chinese, it is the same anywhere in the world is my point, but to not forget the very true evils and goodness that certainly have greater chances to be magnified in such large complexities of populations not found in every part of earth... unless they earn the respect first. I share true and honest feedback with an objective and analytical view. You are lucky to have such an optimistic outlook on a race as a whole, as for me, people are people, race has no meaning. Rather origin of individual upbringing, background, personality, attitude, history of interactions etc. from those many complicated and uniquely different single accounts I suppose generalizations are then deducted but only under a discriminative and objective outlook if to be truly non-opinionated.. if possible at all... seems you have had a great time of your surroundings. I hope not at expenses of others less financially able as many foreigners do in Asia... but you seem not of such a kind like that am I right? anyways.. this forum topic should be closed as it is for a nightclub not a dispute over ethics or such. all in all. as first post said. this is china and it is not like the movies which many foreigners do not understand and perhaps never will. if going to clubs, use your head and dont think you "deserve" the treatment you might be used to abroad or as seen in television or film. and most of all, yes be respectful. but as i have learned from trusting and being perhaps too respectful at times, choose wisely where to put your trust and faith as anyone regardless of race or creed could be your best friend or worst enemy until you know them!... all the best!

Perhaps you are right in that I have a hard time respecting Anybody as I spend more time dealing with trickery and bribery, corruption and dishonesty. Not just Chinese, it is the same anywhere in the world is my point, but to not forget the very true evils and goodness that certainly have greater chances to be magnified in such large complexities of populations not found in every part of earth... unless they earn the respect first. I share true and honest feedback with an objective and analytical view. You are lucky to have such an optimistic outlook on a race as a whole, as for me, people are people, race has no meaning. Rather origin of individual upbringing, background, personality, attitude, history of interactions etc. from those many complicated and uniquely different single accounts I suppose generalizations are then deducted but only under a discriminative and objective outlook if to be truly non-opinionated.. if possible at all... seems you have had a great time of your surroundings. I hope not at expenses of others less financially able as many foreigners do in Asia... but you seem not of such a kind like that am I right? anyways.. this forum topic should be closed as it is for a nightclub not a dispute over ethics or such. all in all. as first post said. this is china and it is not like the movies which many foreigners do not understand and perhaps never will. if going to clubs, use your head and dont think you "deserve" the treatment you might be used to abroad or as seen in television or film. and most of all, yes be respectful. but as i have learned from trusting and being perhaps too respectful at times, choose wisely where to put your trust and faith as anyone regardless of race or creed could be your best friend or worst enemy until you know them!... all the best!

Sorry I just have to say, I do not ever summarize Chinese people as a race by cannibalism hehe, just a reminder that bad things can happen relating to specific bad people which can be found in many places of the world and where so many people are there are more chances.. I am sure you know of the begger methods and amputations? now this would happen and did im sure other places but unfortunately it still happens around this part of the world. again i ask you to not generalize one statement as a reference to all... again read between the lines. 0.000001% is that evil but it is there.. and i by no means say it is indicative of a race.. im probably the least racist person u might know.. but people specific and based on individual accounts I can give you feed back and just a view from the eyes of somone such as myself. take it how u want but dont say i do not behave to the chinese respectfully.. or second best. Who is first? us? koreans? lumberjacks? i never indicate an entire race .. it is frankly offensive you draw such conclusions so quickly to as the first woman said, say all these poeople.. don't to all those people? why:? some stupid people make problems and it should apply to all? . common sense and warnings should but not over exaggerations and massive conclusions,. break it down and examine... it would also be nice if this site could add some moderation to this topic. clear the whole thing as i don't think it serves a purpose to help the club or its patrons other than rumor milling and slandering at this point.. it is rather off topic.. and the original points lost.. . n'est pas?

Your problems because you behave to the Chinese not respectfully. It is visible in Your text: you consider them people second-best.
I often meet impressionable foreigners which to read different ears in the internet.
Personally were you present where does eat people?
And through keep away summarize naively. :)

Perhaps you are right in that I have a hard time respecting Anybody as I spend more time dealing with trickery and bribery, corruption and dishonesty. Not just Chinese, it is the same anywhere in the world is my point, but to not forget the very true evils and goodness that certainly have greater chances to be magnified in such large complexities of populations not found in every part of earth... unless they earn the respect first. I share true and honest feedback with an objective and analytical view. You are lucky to have such an optimistic outlook on a race as a whole, as for me, people are people, race has no meaning. Rather origin of individual upbringing, background, personality, attitude, history of interactions etc. from those many complicated and uniquely different single accounts I suppose generalizations are then deducted but only under a discriminative and objective outlook if to be truly non-opinionated.. if possible at all... seems you have had a great time of your surroundings. I hope not at expenses of others less financially able as many foreigners do in Asia... but you seem not of such a kind like that am I right? anyways.. this forum topic should be closed as it is for a nightclub not a dispute over ethics or such. all in all. as first post said. this is china and it is not like the movies which many foreigners do not understand and perhaps never will. if going to clubs, use your head and dont think you "deserve" the treatment you might be used to abroad or as seen in television or film. and most of all, yes be respectful. but as i have learned from trusting and being perhaps too respectful at times, choose wisely where to put your trust and faith as anyone regardless of race or creed could be your best friend or worst enemy until you know them!... all the best!